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about the fiscal cliff, affordable care act in laying the groundwork for the 2013-2014 elections. >> why a writers institute? >> i think it is something that is very important. we are a culture of words, of voices. words are a key to our imagination, our capacity to imagine things. we are not completely tied to print on the page. there is no other art form so readily accessible other than perhaps soma, which we work with, too. there is something in literature that captures the human. . the >> joint american history television and c-span local content vehicles as we look behind the scenes of a letter lives of new york city. >> next you hear from bradley manning's attorney about his case. he is accused of leaking classified documents to the web site wikileaks. the trial is under way in maryland. he testified earlier on the conditions he has experienced since being detained in iraq. this is half an hour. >> i really appreciate the turn out here, especially the turn of by the press. thank you for that. i have not participated in any public event for today. i also avoid any interviews with th
and spending key to both parties. but you have a president enjoying an election he just won. he is doing well in the polls. the pew foundation put out a poll and say 53% of people would blame republicans if we go over the cliff. you have republicans trying to figure out their flew place in the world. and you have these very serious issues at stake. basically, the thing to keep the eye on the ball here is the president wants republicans to agree to increase rates. in 2010, republicans were brought to office by antitax activists in the tea party. their number one issue-- don't raise rates. so the president is asking them to do something right at the heart of their party. two-third of the republicans who were re-elected, were re-elected with big masorts-- 60%. it's okay with their constituents if we go over the cliff because they're standologist principle. so how are they going to get the-- how is the president anything to get republicans to increase rates? he's going to have to do something on entitlements that allows those republicans to say, hey, we-- sure, we agreed to increasing rates, but
me start tonight with this. when a party loses an election, the knives come out. right now we're watching the night of the long knives on the right. these stories breaking tonight. right wing senator jim demint, the man behind too many failed right wing senate challengers, christine "i'm not a witch" o'donnell, richard mourdock announced today he's quitting the senate to run the hard right heritage foundation. meanwhile, in the republican house a purge is under way with speaker boehner dumping uncontrollable right wingers from prize committee assignments. they're out because they're too right. so what is too right for the republicans following the defeat this week or their defeat last month? is voting nay in the senate against a handicap rights treaty because it carries the nightmare dread of blue helmets riding black helicopters sweeping into your home school room. is that okay? what's out? what's in in the republican party that just took a licking? bob shrum is a democratic strategist and columnist at the daily beast, and john brabender ran rick santorum's presidential campa
instead. as a republican against president obama in this past electi election. and it's all on tape. this is se lashs almost to the point. we're talking about general petraeus. long-time republican, possible contender, the man who just resigned from running the cia in a sex scandal we still don't understand. here he is on tape talking about how he will have the fox news chairman run his campaign and the owner of fox news will bankroll his campaign and he raises the issue of his wife. there's a certain level of interest in this new tape because of who is on it. beyond that, there's the media factor. here's the fox news channel trying to recruit a presidential candidate for the republican party. the fox news chairman telling bob woodward once he was reporting on this, "i thought the republican field in the primaries needed to be shaken up and petraeus might be a good candidate." he said that on the record. after being caught doing it on tape. which means the fox news channel seriously is not like anything nels news. they officially are just a media arm of the republican party. they ar
the election and make it clear that republicans will put revenue on the table, i took a great risk. and then the white house spends three weeks trying to develop a proposal and they sum one up here that calls for $1.6 trillion in new taxes, calls for not even $4 billion in cuts, and they want to have this extra spending that's actually greater than the amount they're willing to cut. i mean it was not a serious proposal. and so right now we're almost nowhere. >> let me start with -- let me start with joe jan on this thing because you and i often agree. this whole thing here, i just think boehner has never accepted the fact that the rates have to go up at the top. i mean they're talking about deductions and all this finesse, they lost this debate. if there was any issue that came out, the president was dead right. he mads he statement clear. the public wants to have some tax fairness. they don't want the top 2% to hold this thing up. boehner doesn't want to hear that. why not? is he unable to hear it? does he not want to hear it? or is he afraid of his own people in the party, the pe
here first. you know, the president won the election. he campaigned on the basis of higher rates for the taxpayer income earners. no surprise. the republicans are asking shocked that the president is taking a tough line. i think they expect him to roll over and play dead. that is not the way things work in this town. he won the election. and he told the american people we were going to raise the rates on the top income earners. now that is what he is trying to do. i think there is some give here. i don't think it has to go up to 39.6. right now it's 35. maybe it goes up a point or two. listen, republicans need time to sort through all of this. there will be a short-term agreement. there will be a down payment with some increased taxes. some increased budget cuts. then there will be a framework for next year. i think they will reach a deal next year. i don't think it's easy. but listen, this is all what politics is about. no one gets everything. you have a negotiation. that is what is going on now. negotiation. >> eric: when you say you think there are increaseded taxes or like in
as far as that road that is concerned whether it is the road map to elections as the ambassador was speaking to or a road map for the negotiations between the various disaffected elements in the north of bahrain to renounce violence and engage in an negotiations process. obviously if we get to a point of elections being held and being able to resume assistance with the forces, that will be an important step forward for the united states to be able to directly help the malian forces in addition to other contributing countries. european union, france, others have already begun to really engage with the malian forces, so it isn't as if there is an abstinence of support for them in the intervening period. >> what lessons have we learned, if i might, ms. dory and mr. gast, i think the mission just celebrated the 50th anniversary. we were actively engaged in the training a good thing as a part of the very probably democracy support and in trying to create and sustain a cultural democracy what lessons are there that we might learn going forward about political failures and more on dome
, santa claus is coming to town ♪ >> so he won't win the grammy but he did win the big one on election night and that's what counts to a lot of us in america. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. >>> knives out on the right. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start tonight with this. when a party loses an election, the knives come out. right now we're watching the night of the long knives on the right. these stories breaking tonight. right wing senator jim demint, the man behind too many failed right wing senate challengers, christine "i'm not a witch" o'donnell, richard mourdock announced today he's quitting the senate to run the hard right heritage foundation. meanwhile, in the republican house a purge is under way with speaker boehner dumping uncontrollable right wingers from prize committee assignments. they're out because they're too right. so what is too right for the republicans following the defeat this week or their defeat last month? is voting nay in the senate against a handicap rights treaty be
a whole month to digest that election day data, where you'll find those who voted for every presidential winner since 1956. that's in today's deep dive. i'm chuck todd feeling a little clogged up as you might hear. the fiscal cliff counteroffer has one thing in common. the differences between the new republican plan and what the white house proposed are stark when it comes to taxes. the gop calls for $800 million in new taxes. it's half of what the white house asked for. republicans to $67 billion. the gop plan changes how security benefits would be calculated. why he favors tax rates instead of eliminating deductions. not enough revenue. less revenue equals more cuts in education. republicans ruled that out saying the new revenue would not be achieved through higher tax rates which we continue to oppose. they were referring to an erskine bowles plan that he testified to in the fall of 2011. the white house made it clear that's a nonstarter and they won't even respond until the gop puts forth a plan that includes a tax rate hike. the obstacle continues to be republicans who hold out hope
elections. richard mourdock in indiana, christine o'donnell in delaware, ken buck out in colorado. bob, i'm going to back to this again. when the chief ramrod of the rift wing senate candidates leaves the post, who would replace him? how is this good news for the right? >> look, i'm not saying whether it's good news or bad news, i'm tell you what i think his calculation is. his calculation is he can be more of a free agent. i think he will get very involved in primaries, he will push hard right issues. i wish him well because the candidates e succeeded in nominating have quite often lost winnable seats. the notion for example that ted cruz -- the republicans were going to win that seat and it was going to be a conservative republican, but there are at least five senate seats and probably control of the senate that have been lost because of these tea party nominees, and he's driven that process. but you watch him drive it from outside. think of grover norquist and the influence he has. i don't like grover norquist. i don't like jim demint, but that's what i think he's thinking. >> john, i
elections are. collective bargaining. >> house democratic leader nancy pelosi pointed out jim demint was one of the ringleaders in voting down the u.n. treaty for people with disabilities this week. >> that was one of the saddest days, so anyone who was a party to that, well, i wish them well wherever they are going and hope that we can have more of our values represented there. >> it was demint and his tea party allies who pushed the country to the brink of default back in 2011. this is what demint told abc news about republicans who tried to strike a debt deal. >> what happens if -- what happens to republicans who go along with a debt ceiling increase? if they go along with the debt ceiling increase without a balanced budget amendment and the kind of stuff you're talking about? >> i think for the most part they're gone. it would be the most toxic vote we could take. >> demint's far right ideology is a key reason nothing gets done in this congress. house speaker john boehner is currently being pressured by demint and his followers to refuse any debt deal with tax increases. demint was on ru
on the phone with mitt romney as he conceded to him on election night. he have len says, the president was probably so glad it was over so that he could get back to working for our country. david says, he must have been elated and relieved. linda says, i know how he felt. so happy. we want to hear your thoughts on this picture. and any other story you are interested in. please head over to facebook and search "politicsnation" and "like" us to join the conversation that keeps going long after the show ends. smoothes, lifts, defies? red jars are all the same right? wrong! you need three uses of a $15 cream to equal the moisturizing power of one use of regenerist microsculpting cream. seems not all red jars are created equal. olay regenerist. a new way to save on your prescriptions. it's the aarp medicarerx saver plus plan from unitedhealthcare. with this plan, you can get copays as low as a dollar through a preferred network pharmacy like walgreens -- where you'll find 8,000 convenient locations. best of all, this plan has the lowest part d premium in the united states -- only $15 a mont
the election. i've got the political upper hand here. i need more than where we were in 2011 because we had a whole election in 2012 focused on almost exactly this issue. the white house thinks they have the political upper hand here. this response is boehner saying, not so fast, mr. president. >> in terms of -- i know you don't have details on the medicare. are there any details on where the revenue comes from? in terms of exemptions and loopholes? do we know if all the exemptions and loopholes are taken off the table? for example, if mortgage and charity is still there? >> we just have detail describing this as revenue through tax reform. presumably there would be some changes to the revenue code that would get you the $600 billion -- i'm sorry, $800 billion in additional revenue the speaker is talking about here. where he gets that from, we'll have to get that answer from the speaker's office. you can imagine right now their phone lines are scrammed and operators are not standing by. >> thanks. you have to start somewhere. >> let's get reaction. s & p capital, jeff cox at cnbc headquarte
it go. they are still crying about the he election. do you remember john sununu who was throwing out all those racial comments and we wondered if he just stoked the base or if he meant it? he meant it. they aggressively got out the base of their base. the base of their base that's dependent to a great extent economically on government policy and government programs. the eighth republican in a row to say oh, he lost, and he's giving stuff away, who is the base of their bases you know what i'm talking. man, when are you going to stop crying? you lost. get over it. do something else with your life. roger simon wrote a great article in making fun of them. the new republican ideas well, obviously he couldn't win. you can't beat a black guy. he said, quote their idea is it is not fair. romney was cursed with white skin, and rich and powerful father. the best education money could buy, and numerous cars, houses, boats, and offshore bank accounts. life can be so cruel. i loved the way that he mocked him. meanwhile what is john boehner up to? other than fighting the president on the grand bargain
is the uncool thing important to win an election? the reason people like barack obama is because he is cool. he is a community activist, an organizer. how did that happen? because it's cool. the culture embraces fake coolness over real achievement. kids would rather play faster not been actually be one or being an actor than actually doing something but i will say this. there is a really big bright spot in president obama being reelected. if he had lost he would be back for another four years and he would be 45% more gray which makes him more -- [inaudible] so we are uncool. that is the way the are. that is how we are. i don't believe that. i look at our message. what is our message? we like to build things. making things as cool. nothing wrong with that. we like be like to own stuff. competition is awesome. the liberal view is self-esteem is better. is better to build self-esteem without competition. that doesn't work. the highest incidence of self-esteem can be found in prison. i think i made that up. it's one of those things that you read and he repeated over and over again but if you ever m
this major problem. at least now there's a focus on one thing and one dangerous man. a man who is not elected. who has never run pour office and is standing in the way after potential economic disaster. he's the ideological godfather of the tea party. grover norquist has been the driving force behind the anti-tax movement. his goal, to take big government and, in his words, drown it in the bathtub. norquist's weapon is the taxpayer protection pledge, which was at one point signed by 95% of gop members of congress. >> can you raise your hand if you feel so strongly about not raising taxes? >> on the campaign trail this year, only one republican presidential candidate, jon huntsman, dared to cross him. norquist has clout. he's called the most powerful unelected man in america today. >> he signed a pledge, it's without congress. >> that pledge is for that congress. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge. >> republicans are jumping ship and supporting unspecified r revenue hikes to help cut the deficit. and big business resigned to higher taxes. here is lloyd blankfein. >> we had to lift up the margi
the debt ceiling. didn't hurt you? i think when you look at the results of the last election, yes, they held the house with a lot of redistricting but even with that redistricting i think that's going to be a lot tougher for them in two years if they do this. >> that is a really interesting point. the conventional wisdom is president obama ended up bloodied in that fight, ben, and in reality, i think you could take 2012 as a referendum on how that played out. >> absolutely. one of the things that's interesting about where we are here, we have something that's rare in washington which is a numerical accounting of where political leverage is. so we know where the starting point for boehner is. we know where the starting point for obama is. this is going to land, you know, 65% to obama, 75% to obama, and we'll be able to see where political leverage is right now. >> the pie is not cut up. luke russert, my friend, the sage of capitol hill, my celebrity doppelganger. >> check out melinda's column about notre dame. >> thank you. >> it is a good column. after the break, revenue on the ta
're going to show that the 2012 presidential election was the most expensive in history. campaign finance statements put the total cost at well above $2 billion. virtually split down the middle between president obama and mitt romney. that includes nearly $86 million raised by romney during the election's final weeks. >>> and someone who has apparently run his last senate campaign is conservative republican jim demint. he announced yesterday he is leaving the senate on january 1st in order to leave a conse e conservative thinktank. whoever is chosen to lead the south carolina governor, a special election in 2014 to finish out his term. >>> a new twist in the very bizarre case of software pioneer john mcafee. the former fugitive is waking up in a detention cell in guatemala this morning, one day after being hospitalized. mcafee told abc news he suffered chest pains and then passed out. doctors don't believe he actually had a heart attack. mcafee spent three weeks running from police in belize. that's where he's wanted for questioning about the murder of his american neighbor. >>> now, to
just lost re-election and the eight or so seats. on the other hand, he still has a very diverse caucus in terms of ideology and it's going to be very difficult. you'll notice in hiss comments he didn't say no to 37%. that said, if he agreed to 37% and he's basically bilateral talks with the president, who says the kwaux is going to approve that. he could end up with a lot of egg on his face if he agrees with the president on this, they go forward with the vote, and it doesn't pass. >> david, the office of management and budget, omb, asking government agencies to figure out what they would cut if we do go over this fiscal cliff. talking a trillion dollars in cuts over ten years. that would mean furloughs for some federal workers, slower hiring, outside contracting, the closer we get to the cliff, the more real it begins to seem. how does that then change the negotiations? >> well, i think it's all part of the political pressure the white house is trying to apply to the congressional republicans. we saw the same thing in '11 when we had the near government shutdown and the dispute over t
, finding the truth and calling out hypocrisy. tonight the people you elected to go to washington and get things done can't seem to make any progress at all on the looming fiscal cliff. instead, what we have is a game of finger pointing, both democrats and republicans, what else, blaming each other for the lack of a deal. now, keep in mind time is of the essence here. automatic tax hikes and spending cuts will go into effect in just four weeks if your members of congress can't come together and do a deal. on paper, it shouldn't be too hard. it's the job the american people elected them to do and the american people expect results. they want compromise. in fact, two separate cnn/orc polls, in those polls, an overwhelming number of people, 72%, said both sides should do a better job working together in general. so the people, that's you, want compromise. yet this is how the men and women on capitol hill, the men and women you elected to work for you, have responded over the last 48 hours. >> i think we're going over the cliff. >> it's unfortunate that the white house has spent three weeks d
to next year, the election year, even now it's time to focus on governing and serving people. >> booker for senate, 2013? >> again, my focus right now is trying to figure out what that next step will be that is in accordance with my values. life is about purpose, not position. my value is i want to find whatever i do that can best make a contribution to the people in the city i love and the state i love. you and i both know this because you have done some great shows on this. we live in a country that has so much work to do. we still live in a country where men and women are denied equal citizenship rights because of who they decide to love. we live in a country where we have an abject failure in war on drugs that is costing taxpayers billions and billions of dollars and locking up more people than any country on earth. we still haven't faced up to immigration policy. we still have poverty, people working full-time jobs, still below the poverty line. there is an urgency to address one simple test. when a child stands up in oakland, california and a child stands up in a more affluent are
this, he's trying to distance himself from it right now. >> the president got re-elected. he's claiming he got re-elected in part because he wants to tax that 2%. he cannot go back on that. in the meantime, congress most of the republicans signed the grover norquist pledge which says you cannot tax that 2% more than anybody else. you can't increase the taxes. so we're at a stalemate and someone has to give and i don't see anyone giving right now. >> bank of america today commented on the let's jump crowd. the bungee jump crowd for which they think is a scenario. >> you wonder how much of that is in negotiating position. embraced early on by senator schumer, new york state's senior senator. we'll see. you know, there are those who believe if you want deficit reduction and are serious about it, we have one way to get there and it's called the fiscal cliff and will send us into recession but we may get deficit reduction but others believe we won't get spending cuts that we need. more will take place in defense which many argue does need to happen perhaps though not in the same way it does.
: that is the story. the story is it's buried and before a presidential election, this administration said we're just going to conduct an investigation. they hid under the term "investigation" and they could say don't ask any questions because it's being investigated. the biggest issue is why wasn't the embassy secured? we won't have to ask where the video if we had secured the embassy. but, you know, i just think this whole thing, this will die because we -- there is not enough people to stay on it. >> eric: the rest of the embassies secure now? there is the story. if they haven't cut so much money from the -- >> dana: the media covered this heavily and it was the inability to connect the dots and prevent 9/11 from happe happening. fair criticism. but you have a direct contradiction. the president declined to call it terrorism and called it terrorism later on. of course i did. crowley backs him up. he says it on september 12. three days later, says something totally different. so the media points out hypocrisy to show a hole between arguments missed this one. didn't pass this off. >> andrea: it's st
on that story, thanks so much. >> in the meantime, new developments on the bloody civil war going on. electing a new military commander, in the meantime, meanwhile, rather, security officials from the u.s., britain, chance and the gulf region talks answered at the conflict in trying syria apart days before the conflict of the friends of syria meeting, a grouping of dozens of countries pledging nonmilitary support to help rebels out. and-- president obama asking congress for more than 60 billion dollars to help east coast states recover from the devastation of superstorm sandy. while lawmakers in new york and new jersey call it a good start. they add, it won't cover everything. peter doocy live with details. >> kelly, new york governor. rather new jersey governor chris christie and andrew cuomo initially asked washington for about 79 billion dollars to rebuild their states and they are now thanking the president for his 60.4 billion dollars commitment and the white house wrote a letter to congress yesterday that says these are funds necessary to finance a needed recovery effort and to help the
the fiscal cliff. right after the election wall street dropped 5% when everybody suddenly focused on the fiscal cliff and realized that this was a problem. but since then it's kind of bumped along at this sort of level. i don't think wall street is at all sanguine about the idea that if we went over the fiscal cliff, life would go on as we know it and everything would be fine. >> one of the things that was really interesting to me to bear out that point is ken conrad yesterday who's been so down, i mean, he's leaving the senate. he's done this for seven years. they can't produce deals. and yesterday when i interviewed him, joe, he said i think we're going to make this. i think the boehner offer had significant indicators that something here is going on, and they're going to come together. >> also, kent conrad, a guy -- i've loved him for a long time, deficit hawk. they haven't allowed him to put a budget out for years. he's growing frustrated. i'm sure he's going to be glad to leave. but i was surprised by that as well. you see also, sam stein, republicans are now starting to real
doesn't mean you have to work together on everything. and it also means that elections have consequences. now it's time for "the last word" with lawrence o'donnell. >>> tonight, jay carney's position in the white house secretary hall of fame is assured by what he said today in the white house press briefing room about the republicans' latest budget proposal. quote, it is magic beans and fairy dust. >> i'm worried about the fiscal cliff in the same way i'm worried about martians. >> fiscal cliff. >> fiscal whatever it is. >> is this a rerun? >> still no progress as all sides jockey for position. >> i would say we're nowhere. >> speaker john boehner issued a downer offer yesterday. >> the white house quickly dismissed it. >> the speaker's proposal is out of balance. >> it is more of the same. >> it is not me being positive. it is the math. >> magic math. >> magic beans and fairy dust. >> president obama did win the election. >> me thinks somebody made him king. >> no. i don't think that's right. >> he doesn't see where he stands in the universe. >> i would say we're nowhere. >> are we that
the election, we didn't, the american people in every survey say this is where we're going to go, we're going to go along with the wishes of the american people and the republicans would get goodwill for doing that. they have to get out of this ideological headrow that they're stuck in and do something for the company. >> the polls give them plausible acceptability of this plan of trying to move forward and, as you say, with the will of the american people. real quickly, though, the jim demint announcement this morning. surprised by that that he's going to be leaving? >> not really. he is one vote in the senate. demint is a staunch conservative. he is pretty well connected to business because that was his culture before he came into the senate. fact is is that he may be able to do more for the conservative movement in this country as head of the heritage foundation than he would be what he's doing in the senate. he was the lead dog about going after obama care. well, that didn't work. there was no waterloo. he is somewhat scarred national live now as far as being legislatively inept because h
on the november mid term election? and if you hook at-- and then later on, reflexively supported the regime in ruwan da when there were more war crimes committed and since vowed to heal that, but, you know, you've seen her political statements recently that showed there's a political side of susan rice and willingness for talking points that we can't afford as secretary of state and john kerry, he was part of the foreign senate relations committee and he was back in the late 60's and talked about war crimes that he reportedly saw against the vietnam war and you have some track records that don't make them the best fit. >> there are numerous republicans, john mccain, lindsey graham, a barraso who sates i would support john kerry as secretary of state who in their words would cruise through a nomination. and how would an affect if those two are in place? >> if you like what's in the last four years, you're going to get more of the same. deep defense cuts. if you had john kerry as secretary of defense. what we need is a strong secretary of defense, in spite of drawdowns and budget cuts is goin
at that time. the republicans held a lot of the cards. this time it's very different. president came off the re-election. that's why you see the president holding the hard line. a lot of pressure on the president to hold his hard line even from his left. i think you'll continue to seat president do so. it's going to be up to the republicans to feel whether he has enough pressure, i think the white house is encouraged that some republicans have broken ranks and are starting to say let's look at other opportunities to maybe raise rates. >> we'll talk about the ultimate in breaking ranks if you will. molly, i want to ask you about the surprising resignation of tea party favorite jim demint. it seems kind of sudden. why now? >> everybody was surprised about this. but i seems in the aftermath of the election the republicans are still in the minority of the senate. demint was in the minority of the minority. that's not a very powerful place to be. demint always known as a bomb thrower, someone who liked to make trouble. he figured he's probably correct about this he could have more power and influence and be
knows we lost the election, and we're willing to put revenue on the today that will get some political heat for people like me. that is movement in a positive way. republicans should do revenue. we're willing to do it in a smart way. if you raise tax rates, you get capitol hill four help billion in revenue, and you hurt job creation. if you limit deductions at about $40,000, $50,000 per person, you prevent the middle class and get about $800 billion in revenue. 100% of americans are going to lose everything we know as america if we don't fix enitlements. we're becoming greece because of out-of-control entitlement spending. there's no age adjustment for medicare and social security. there is no means testing, of in the president's plan. we should do what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did, adjust the age for retirements, a means test benefit, do it together, and republicans should put revenues on the table and the president's plan does nothing but damn us to becomeag greece. >> schieffer: let us shift to the whole situation of the episode that happened in benghazi, that's been kind of in
can get this sorted out, you can really move forward, and therefore, i think now that your elections are out of the way, i'm just speaking as an outsider, now your election is out of the way, there's going to be all this bargaining and positions, but my expectations, i hope, and the desire of the world, is sorted out, and we can move on, and then sort our own problems out. >> for those of us in the united states, we see sort of what seems to be two intractable issues. republicans saying we will not raise taxes on the top 2% of earners. the democrats say we're certainly not going to have cuts that hurt spending cuts that hurt the middle class. and as the proposals go on the table they seem intractable on it. >> they do. but you would expect them, the republicans to be more on the tax side and democrats to be more on the we're not cutting spending side. this is pretty routine type of argument. the question is, you know, are they so far apart they can't bridge the gap? i think they could bridge the gap. you know, there have been proposals put forward on a cross-party basis before that v
think you saw that in the election. i don't think that is their intent. i think their intent is quite sound. >> they are becoming the party of rich white older men. you can't think of any other section of the community right now thinking the republican party is for me. >> i think that is why the politics of this make it possible to go over the cliff. i think the democrats see if we go over the cliff the republicans get blamed. meanwhile. i think the republicans worry about bei ining blamed by a pri contender with the field. that doesn't mean they are obliged to stop this. his own party is slit. you are seeing groups coming out saying i'm prepared to go for a few more taxes. >> from both sides. on this, not exactly. this is one of the things that interested me. there is a lot of people in the republican party, in the senate who have said look, $250,000 is not a rich man, but it is not a rich person in new york city or loss ang. and the rates, which they want to go from 35 to 39.6%. maybe you are going to have to raise the threshold to get a deal. maybe you are not going to be able to g
came back home. that is what you do. that's what you do. our people in an overwhelmingly support re-election. >> eric: we voted for obama. quid pro quo. can you talk to me about that comment? >> kimberly: the problem is they are suffering. what do they do to help detroit except for michael moore fleecing and taking the cash out of it. it's a mockery of the situation. job market there, the economy. it's depressed. >> dana: the point of the election and swing state of michigan is president obama saved michigan and the auto industry in detroit because of his actions to bail him out. at least she is honest about what they are looking for. they are not honest about the problem. >> bob: pall ryan fleeced left and right. >> dana: you are hilarious. >> greg: i was hoping this was bacon. i thought they were bringing bacon home. i was depressed -- >> kimberly: you like bacon. >> greg: everybody got bacon instead of money it would be a better place. >> eric: leave it there. coming up, three stories that you will not believe the real story behind the shoeless nan the photo that made national headlines.
elected office in america. i would like any democrats to tell me [indiscernible] during the whitewater investigation was the work under subpoena. that is evidence tampering. those are two felonies she has committed while she has been in the white house then thehost: bg that issue is something we should be concerned about customer -- do you think that issue is something we should be concerned about? drew is a democrat in baltimore. caller: good morning. host: what do you think about hillary clinton's future? caller: i think she is the next logical step that we need. my grandfather was a democrat in delaware. he served two terms. allyink she is what we re4all needs and what we need for the country to move ahead. host: steven is an independent from connecticut. caller: thank you for taking my call. i really like hillary clinton. i think she is a hard worker. i think her old man is a hard worker, too. whitewater was like three wars ago. that was a long time ago. i would like to see jeb bush run against hillary clinton. i think they can move our nation forward. host: if jeb bush -- if it is
, but not through a rate hike, but the president believes he won the election and he's upped the ante. says he wants twice as much in tax revenues than a year and a half ago, so the president believes he has the higher ground. i think maybe the democrats have a deeper trench, if you will. they have public on their side. but if you talk to people in washington, there's still this sense that at a last minute, reason will prevail, but there's not a lot of optimism. you know this and my colleagues know this, more and more people are talking about the threat. not only if you don't deal with this, you'll send the united states back in a recession, but that the global economy is teetering. they're in their political vaults and maybe blind to the political stakes. >> ken, let me share something from pimco's bill gross. the world's largest bond investor. they make informed bets on economies. here's what bill gross had to say about what's going on right now in the u.s. he said these head winds cannot be wish away as we move forward. those are things like growing debt, globalization, technology and our ageing
faced in the election and the total rebuke amongst hispanic voters. the dynamics and the forces are there for immigration reform. more so now and that ever before. will it be difficult? yes, will it be complicated? of course. i think people have come to terms with the fact that you're not going to deport 12 million plus people. that's never going to happen. so let's find a way to do this in a decent, humane way. i think if we do it the country wins, it's not about a republican or democrat victory. >> joe, how would the gop react to a proposal for a path to citizenship. for the 12 million illegal immigrants who are living here. >> there's a shot to get this done. chris has spoken right. we have to consider what's best for the united states of america. and the best way for the united states to move forward is to listen to those, those voices of reason, senator john mccain some years ago along with the late senator ted kennedy had an immigration package that provided people with path to citizenship. this has to become an option. certainly if republicans have from a party standpoint
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